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THE TIME SCALE ISSUE IN GLOBAL WARMING

Posted on: January 31, 2022

WE OFTEN FIND IN THE CLIMATE CHANGE SKEPTICISM LITERATURE THE ARGUMENT AGAINST ANTHROPOGENIC GLOBAL WARMING AND CLIMATE CHANGE PRESENTED IN TERMS OF THE LAST 8,000 YEARS OF THE TEMPERATURE CHART SHOWN ABOVE. THIS 8,000-YEAR OVERALL COOLING TREND IS PRESENTED BY SKEPTICS TO CLAIM THAT SINCE THE OVERALL TREND IN THE LAST 8,000 YEARS OF THE HOLOCENE INTERGLACIAL IS A COOLING TREND, THE CURRENT WARMING CYCLE OF THE HOLOCENE ISN’T REALLY A WARMING CYCLE AND THAT THEREFORE THE CHART PRESENTED ABOVE DISPROVES THE CLIMATE SCIENCE CLAIM TO GLOBAL WARMING AND CLIMATE CHANGE SINCE THE END OF THE LITTLE ICE AGE OR SINCE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION ABOUT 200 YEARS AGO.

AT THE SAME TIME WHAT WE SEE IN TEMPERATURE CHARTS OVER LONG TIME SCALES SUCH AS THE ONE PRESENTED ABOVE, IS THAT HOLOCENE TEMPERATURES, AND INTERGLACIAL TEMPERATURES IN GENERAL, TEND TO GO THROUGH ALTERNATING WARMING AND COOLING CYCLES AT CENTENNIAL AND MILLENNIAL TIME SCALES AS EXPLAINED IN A RELATED POST ON THIS SITE LINKED BELOW:

THE TEMPERATURE CYCLES OF THE HOLOCENE: https://tambonthongchai.com/2022/01/05/holocene-global-warming-and-climate-change-cycles/

THE GLOBAL WARMING/CLIMATE CHANGE ISSUE OF OUR TIME IS NOT THE 8,000-YEAR TEMPERATURE HISTORY OF THE HOLOCENE BUT ITS CENTENNIAL AND MILLENNIAL TIME SCALE TEMPERATURE CYCLES DESCRIBED IN THE DOCUMENT LINKED ABOVE. IN THAT CONTEXT, THE CLIMATE SCIENCE CLAIM IS NOT AN 8,000-YEAR WARMING CYCLE BUT 100-200 YEAR TEMPERATURE CYCLE THAT SHOWS RISING GLOBAL MEAN SURFACE TEMPERATURE WHICH CLIMATE SCIENCE HAS ATTRIBUTED TO HUMAN ACTIVITY IN THE FORM OF HUMANS BURNING FOSSIL FUELS SINCE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION.

ANY CHALLENGE TO THIS CLIMATE SCIENCE CLAIM MUST ADDRESS THE CLAIM AS PRESENTED BY CLIMATE SCIENCE IN TERMS OF TIME SCALE. THE 8,000-YEAR GLOBAL COOLING ARGUMENT AGAINST THE CLIMATE SCIENCE ALARM OF GLOBAL WARMING AND CLIMATE CHANGE SINCE THE LITTLE ICE AGE OR SINCE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION SUFFERS FROM A TIME SCALE FALLACY. THE CLIMATE CHANGE ISSUE OF OUR TIME IS NOT WHAT THE OVERALL TEMPERATURE TREND HAS BEEN OVER AN 8,000 – YEAR TIME SCALE. IT IS VERY SPECIFICALLY, THE PRESENTATION BY CLIMATE SCIENCE OF RISING GMST SINCE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION OR SINCE THE END OF THE LITTLE ICE AGE.

Global Warming
THE RELEVANT TEMPERATURE CHART

IN YET ANOTHER RELATED POST: LINK: https://tambonthongchai.com/2021/11/09/the-issue-is-human-cause/ WE SHOW THAT THE WARMING AND COOLING CYCLES OF INTERGLACIALS AT CENTENNIAL AND MILLENNIAL TIME SCALES IS THE NORM AND WHAT NATURALLY HAPPENS AND THAT THEREFORE THAT THE CURRENT WARMING TREND FOLLOWING THE LITTLE ICE AGE COOLING TREND IS THE NORM IN WHAT NATURE DOES ALL BY ITSELF AND IT DOES NOT NEED HUMAN CAUSE TO EXPLAIN. THE ISSUE IS NOT WHETHER IT IS WARMING OR COOLING FOR 8,000 YEARS. THE ISSUE IS WHETHER THIS PARTICULAR WARMING CYCLE OF THE HOLOCENE AT A CENTENNIAL TIME SCALE IS HUMAN CAUSED.

LINK: https://tambonthongchai.com/2021/11/09/the-issue-is-human-cause/

4 Responses to "THE TIME SCALE ISSUE IN GLOBAL WARMING"

If Global Warming was actually taking place on a planet that’s 75% covered with water we would have much more water vapor being created, much more precipitation and the winter precipitation would exceed the summer melt and all the glaciers and the polar ice caps would be growing.
This is exactly how Europe, Siberia and North America became buried under mile high continental ice sheets.
When Global Cooling started, the amount of water vapor decreased, the amount of precipitation decreased and the summer melt exceeded the winter precipitation and all the glaciers and the polar ice caps started melting away.
Global Warming is not a fact, buy Global Cooling is, obviously.

Very interesting Ruben. Thanks. I will look into it.

The graph that looks like spaghetti is missing a 1000 years to the left. In that period CO2 was 425PPM about 7PPM higher than today) these climate cycles underpin warming periods. The other graph doesn’t start at 1700 either to focus and try to pin warming on mankind. Greenhouse gas theory is also provably false with several papers published showing this. Titan has 8000 times more “Greenhouse gas” methane than Saturn yet it’s cooler. The reason is the density of the atmosphere is key, not it’s content.
1) Holmes, R. I. (2018). Thermal Enhancement on Planetary Bodies and the Relevance of the Molar Mass Version of the Ideal Gas Law to the Null Hypothesis of Climate Change. Earth, 7(3), 107-123. (doi: 10.11648/j.earth.20180703.13)
2) Holmes, R. I. (2019). On the Apparent Relationship Between Total Solar Irradiance and the Atmospheric Temperature at 1 Bar on Three Terrestrial-type Bodies. Earth, 8(6), 346-351. (doi: 10.11648/j.earth.20190806.15)
3) Robert, I. H. (2018). Thermal Gradients on Planetary Bodies and the Molar Mass Ideal Gas Law. J Phys Astron, 6(1), 134.

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