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HOW TO THINK ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE

Posted on: June 11, 2021

Prof. William Happer and Prof. Yoni Dubi | How to Think About Climate  Change - YouTube

BY WILLIAM HAPPER FEBRUARY 25, 2021

THE BEST WAY TO THINK ABOUT THE FRENZY OVER THE CLIMATE IS THAT IT IS KIND OF A MODERN VERSION OF THE MEDIEVAL CRUSADE. THE MOTTO OF THOSE CRUSADERS WAS DEUS VULT MEANING GOD WANTS IT. IT WOULD BE HARD TO THINK OF A BETTER VIRTUE SIGNAING SLOGAN THAN THAT. SO FAR MOST OF THE CLIMATE ENTHUSIASTS HAVE NOT GONE THAT FAR ALTHOUGH EXCEPT FOR THOSE WHO CLAIM THEY ARE DOING GOD’S WORK.

PERHAPS AFTER DECADES OF PROPAGANDA, MANY AMERICANS THINK THAT THERE REALLY IS A CLIMATE EMERGENCY. THOSE WHO THINK THAT WAY IN MANY CASES THEY MEAN WELL, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN MISLED BY DECADES OF MISINFORMATION. AS A SCIENTIST WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS A LOT ABOUT CLIMATE. I SET UP MANY OF OUR CLIMATE RESEARCH CENTERS WHEN I WAS SERVING IN THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY IN THE EARLY 1990S. I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THERE IS NO CLIMATE EMERGENCY. THERE WILL NOT BE A CLIMATE EMERGENCY.

CRUSADES HAVE ALWAYS ENDED BADLY. THEY HAVE BROUGHT DISCREDIT TO THE SUPPOSED RIGHTEOUS CALLERS. THEY HAVE BROUGHT HARDSHIP AND DEATH TO MULTITUDES AND POLICIES TO ADDRESS THIS PHONY CLIMATE EMERGENCY WILL CAUSE GREAT DAMAGE TO AMERICAN CITIZENS AND TO THEIR ENVIRONMENT. BUT IT’S HEATING UP. ON FEBRUARY 4TH BERNIE SANDERS AND AOC AND A CONGRESSMAN BLIMENAR FROM OREGON INTRODUCED LEGISLATION “LEGISLATION MANDATING THE DECLARATION OF A NATIONAL CLIMATE EMERGENCY. THE NATIONAL CLIMATE EMERGENCY ACT DIRECTS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO DECLARE A NATIONAL CLIMATE EMERGENCY AND MOBILIZE EVERY RESOURCE AT THE COUNTRY’S DISPOSAL TO HALT, REVERSE, MITIGATE, AND PREPARE FOR THE CONSEQUENCES OF THIS CLIMATE CRISIS.

WELL, THERE ISN’T A CLIMATE CRISIS, THERE WILL NOT BE A CLIMATE CRISIS. THIS IS UTTER NONSENSE. IT GETS WORSE WHEN YOU GET TO THE STATE LEVEL WHERE THERE ARE LESS CHECKS AND BALANCES. HERE FOR EXAMPLE ARE SOME REMARKS MADE LAST WEEK BY CHARLES ISMAY MASSACHUSETS UNDERSECRETARY FOR FOR CLIMATE CHANGE TO THE VERMONT CLIMATE COUNCIL.

MR ISMAY RESIGNED A FEW DAYS LATER AND HAD HE NOT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED ANYWAY. THAT’S THE WAY CRUSADES ARE. THE EXTREME HEROISM OF THE CAUSE DOES NOT MAKE ROOM FOR REASON OR THE VALUE OF TRUTH. THIS IS REALLY NOT A QUESTION OF SCIENCE. IT IS SOME KIND OF SECULAR RELIGION FOR SOME AND MONEY OR POWER FOR OTHERS. WHATEVER IT IS, IT IS NOT SCIENCE.

DURING THE MEDIEVAL CRUSADES, PART OF IT WAS AGAINST THE SUPPOSED THREATS TO THE HOLY SITES IN JERUSALEM BUT A LOT OF IT WAS AGAINST LOCAL ENEMIES. SO THE MEDIEVAL INQUISITION REALLY DID A JOB ON THE POOT QATARS AND DEVOLVANCIANS OF SOUTHERN FRANCE VOLVAMILLS AND THE VULCANS

CLIMATE FANATICS DON’T KNOW AND DON’T CARE ABOUT THE SCIENCE. THEY KNOW LESS ABOUT THE CLIMATE THAN THESE MEDIEVAL INQUISITIONS KNEW OR CARED ABOUT THE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST.

JUST ABOUT EVERYONE WANTS TO LIVE IN A CLEAN ENVIRONMENT. {PICTURE OF AIR POLLUTION IN SHANGHAI

THAT’S REAL AIR POLLUTION YOU’RE LOOKING AT. SOME OF THIS POLLUTION ACTUALLY IS FROM BURNING COAL, BUT THE BIGGER ISSUE IS THE DUST THAT BLOWS IN FROM THE GOBI DESERT. THIS POLLUTION ISSUE IN SHANGHAI IS NOT NEW BUT DATES BACK TO THE DAYS OF MARCO POLO AND LONG BEFORE. AND PART OF IT IS THE ASIAN AGRICULTURAL PRACTICE OF BURNING WHAT’S LEFT ON THE FIELD AFTER HARVEST. THIS IS POLLUTION AND IT IS BAD FOR OUR HEALTH BUT IT HAS NO RELEVANCE TO THE CO2 ISSUE IN CLIMATE CHANGE. CO2 IS A GAS THAT IS INVISIBLE TO ALL OUR SENSES. IT IS A GAS YOU CAN’T SEE, SMELL, OR TASTE. THE HAIRBRAINED SCHEME TO LIMIT EMISSIONS OF CO2 WHICH IS ACTUALLY BENEFICIAL WILL ONLY MAKE IT HARDER TO GET RID OF REAL POLLUTANTS LIKE THE POLLUTION IN SHANGHAI IN THE IMAGE ABOVE. CO2 IS NOT A POLLUTANT.

CO2 IS NOT A POLLUTANT. WE BREATHE OUT LOTS OF CO2, ABOUT 2 POUNDS A DAY. THE AUDIENCE IS PUTTING OUT A LOT OF CO2 IN THIS ROOM AND I HAVE A METER. I MEASURED THE CO2 OUTSIDE ON THE BALCONY AND IT WAS ABOUT 400PPM. OUR BREATH IS NOT THAT DIFFERENT FROM THE OUTPUT OF A POWER PLANT THAT BURNS COAL, OR NATURAL GAS, OR OIL AND THE FLUE GAS COMING OFF THE STACK IS MOSTLY NITROGEN, A LITTLE BIT OF LEFTOVER OXYGEN, AND WATER VAPOR AND CO2. WHAT WE BREATHE OUT IS NOT VERY DIFFERENT EXCEPT FOR A HIGHER LEVEL OF OF OXYGEN IN OUR RESPIRATION. OTHERWISE IT IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE FLUE GAS OF THE POWER PLANT EXCEPT THAT THE POWER PLANT HAS A LITTLE MORE CO2 AND CORRESPONDINGLY LESS OXYGEN. SO OUR BREATH IS DEFINITELY NOT A POLLUTANT AND IN FACT OUR BREATHING REFLEX IS DETERMINED ENTIRELY BY CO2, IT’S NOT DETERMINED BY OXYGEN.

THIS IS MY WIFE BARBARA IN NEW JERSEY AND BEHIND HER IS A NEW SOLAR FARM. AND WE’VE SEEN HOW WELL SOLAR FARMS AND WINDMILLS WORK IN TEXAS, AND, THEY NEVER DID WORK TERRIBLY WELL BUT WE NEED TO BE GRATEFUL TO NATURE, SHE SEEMS TO HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR AND SHE TAUGHT US A GOOD LESSON IN TEXAS I THINK ALTHOUGH PEOPLE TEND TO BE SLOW LEARNERS. THE PROBLEM WITH RENEWABLE ENERGY, SOLAR AND WIND, IS THAT THEY TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE, I PREFER THE NICE AND GREEN FIELD THAT WAS THERE BEFORE IT WAS COVERED UP. SOLAR PANELS DON’T WORK AT ALL AT NIGHT SO YOU NEED SOMETHING ELSE THAT WILL PROVIDE ELECTRICAL POWER AT NIGHT. THEY DON’T WORK ON CLOUDY DAYS AND THEY DON’T WORK TERRIBLY WELL IN THE WINTER WHEN THE SUN IS LOW. IT’S PURE VIRTUE SIGNALING. THEY MAKE NO ECONOMIC SENSE BUT THEY ARE MASSIVELY SUBSIDIZED BY STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. .

HERE IS AN EARLY WIND FARM IN CALIFORNIA. IT’S BEGINNING TO FALL TO PIECES BUT ALL WIND FARMS FALL TO PIECES AND NOBODY KNOWS HOW WE’RE GOING TO DISPOSE OF ALL OF THIS JUNK WHEN IT NO LONGER WORKS AND THEY CAN’T BE RECYCLED. IT HAS MUCH THE SAME PROBLEMS AS SOLAR. WHEN I WAS A KID PEOPLE DIDN’T SIT IN FRONT OF COMPUTER SCREENS ALL DAY AND LOOK AT SIMULATIONS OF THE WORLD BUT YOU COULD GO OUTSIDE AND LOOK AT THE CLOUDS OR WHAT THE WEATHER WAS LIKE AND LOOK AT THE CLOUDS AND IN THOSE DAYS PEOPLE KNEW THAT THE WIND BLOWS WHEN IT WANTS TO AND SOMETIMES IT BLOWS AND SOMETIMES IT DOESN’T. AND WE SAW LAST WEEK IT DIDN’T BLOW VERY MUCH AND WHEN IT STARTED TO BLOW IT WAS BLOWING ICE FROM THE WINDMILL BLADES AND THAT DIDN’T DO ANY GOOD. RENEWABLE ENERGY IS REALLY WHAT I WOULD CALL THE INVERSE ROBIN HOOD STRATEGY WHERE YOU ROB FROM THE POOR TO GIVE TO THE RICH. UTILITIES ARE PERMITTED TO RAISE RATES BECAUSE OF THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN INEFFICIENT AND UNRELIABLE RENEWABLES. THEY JUNK FULLY DEPRECIATED COAL, GAS, AND NUCLEAR PLANTS ALL OF WHICH ARE WORKING BEAUTIFULLY PRODUCING INEXPENSIVE RELIABLE ENERGY BUT REGULATED PROFITS ARE MUCH LESS. SO TAXPAYERS SUBSIDIZE THE RICH WHO CAN AFFORD TO LEASE LAND FOR WIND AND SOLAR POWER. THE TAX INCENTIVE PANDERS TO THE UPPPER CLASS IN GATED COMMUNITIES. PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD TO BUY TESLA ELECTRIC CARS WITH SUBSIDIES FROM THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND OFTEN WITH SUBSIDIES FOR THE ELECTRICAL POWER TO CHARGE UP THEIR TOYS. AND THE COMMON PEOPLE HAVE LITTLE SPARE INCOME. THEY PAY MORE AND MORE FOR THE NECESSITIES OF LIFE IN ORDER TO SUBSIDIZE THE RICH.

NOW, YOU CAN’T SPEND A LIFETIME AS A PROFESSOR AND NOT RELAPSE FROM TIME TO TIME FROM GIVING A CLASSROOM LECTURE SO YOU’LL HAVE TO EXPECT TO LECTURED TO NOW FOR A FEW MINUTES. AND THE GOOD THING IS THERE WILL BE NO QUIZ. BUT THOSE OF YOU THAT SHARE MY VIEW HAT THIS CLIMATE HYSTERIA IS NONSENSE, IT HELPS IF YOU KNOW WHAT THE FACTS ARE. SO I HOPE I CAN ARM SOME OF YOU WITH THE REAL SCIENTIFIC FACTS.

CLIMATE SCIENCE: THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE OVERALL CIRCULATIONS OF THE ATMOSPHERE HERE ON THE EARTH – AROUND THE EARTH. AND THE THING THAT KEEPS US WARM ON EARTH IS THE SUN. EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT. EVERYTHING WARMS UP WHEN THE SUN COMES UP AT DAWN AND ITS NICE AND WARM AT LEAST IN SUMMERTIME AND EARLY AFTERNOON AND IT COOLS OFF AT NIGHT. AND THE EARTH IS WARMED MOSTLY IN THE TROPICS THE REDDISH AREA ON THIS CHART HERE. THAT’S WHERE THE SUN IS MOST NEARLY OVERHEAD AT NOON AND SO THERE IS MORE SOLAR ENERGY COMING IN ON THE TROPICS AND IT GOES OUT AS COOLING RADIATION AS EARTH RADIATES THE ABSORBED SOLAR ENERGY OUT TO SPACE. SO WE COOL, OUR EARTH COOLS BY RADIATING OUT INTO THE VERY COLD SPACE AND BY WARMING UP FROM THE SUNLIGHT SHINING DURING THE DAY. SO CLIMATE INVOLVES A COMPLICATED INTERPLAY OF THE SUNLIGHT THAT WARMS US, THE THERMAL INFRA RED RADIATION THAT GOES OUT INTO SPACE AND THE TRANSPORT OF ITS HEAT BOTH BY RADIATION AND THE MOTION THE AIR AND THE WATER, FOR EXAMPLE THE GULF STREAM THAT CARRIES HUGE AMOUNTS OF HEAT TO NORTHERN EUROPE, EVEN TO RUSSIA. AND THESE CURRENTS OF AIR IN THE ATMOSPHERE ALSO CARRY A LOT OF HEAT. SINCE WE ARE IN PHOENIX, LET ME POINT OUT THAT

WHAT WE HAVE PRESENTED ABOVE IS THE FIRST 1/3 OF THE VIDEO. IT CONTINUES IN THIS MANNER FOR ANOTHER HALF AN HOUR OR SO AND MAY BE VIEWED ON YOUTUBE AT THE LINK BELOW. MY COMMENTARY BELOW THEREFORE APPLIES ONLY TO THE FIRST 16 MINUTES OF THE VIDEO.

SOME COMMENTS ON THE FIRST 16.2 MINUTES OF THIS VIDEO

THE COMPARISON OF THE CLIMATE MOVEMENT WITH THE MEDIEVAL CRUSADE IS BRILLIANTLY DONE. THIS COMPARISON YIELDS IMPORTANT INSIGHTS INTO THE RELIGIOUS FERVOUR OF THE MOVEMENT AND ITS VILIFICATION OF “DENEIRS”. AS FURTHER SUPPORT FOR THIS VIEW, WE NOTE IN THE HOME PAGE OF THIS BLOG: LINK: https://tambonthongchai.com/ AS FOLLOWS: {IF CLIMATE SCIENCE IS SCIENCE THEN CHALLENGING CLIMATE SCIENCE IS ALSO SCIENCE, A GOOD AND DESIREABLE THING BECAUSE THAT IS HOW SCIENCE ADVANCES. BUT IF CLIMATE SCIENCE IS RELIGION THEN CHALLENGING CLIMATE SCIENCE IS HERESY AND A BAD THING AND THE CHALLENGERS ARE HERETICAL CLIMATE DENIERS.}

AS FURTHER SUPPORT FOR THE CRUSADE ANALOGY WE PRESENT IN A RELATED POST ON THIS SITE OUR INTERPRETATION OF THE CLIMATE MOVEMENT IN TERMS OF THE SUPERSTITION AND CONFIRMATION BIAS NATURE OF HUMANS: LINK: https://tambonthongchai.com/2018/08/03/confirmationbias/ WHERE WE NOTE AS FOLLOWS:

The human instinct to identify cause and effect in nature and to manipulate natural forces for his benefit works over a wide spectrum from rational and scientific to religion, superstition, and witchcraft. Weather and climate are significant forces of nature to which man is constantly exposed and which he has overcome somewhat by adapting caves and building homes to shelter him from the weather. However, weather and climate extremes both short term weather change such as storms, temperature extremes, and precipitation extremes, and long term climate change to excessive dryness, excessive wetness, or long term transitions to warmer or colder temperatures are significant threats to man’s ability to survive and prosper. Yet, neither weather nor climate are stable and predictable but are subject to the random and chaotic whims of nature particularly so at brief time scales and small geographical extents.

AS FOR THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION, IT APPEARS TO BE A WANDERING COLLECTION OF THOUGHTS OF A WISE MAN ON THE CLIMATE CHANGE ISSUE OF OUR TIME

HERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC ISSUES:

(1) HE GOES TO GREAT LENGHTS, EVEN PRESENTING PICTURES OF POLLUTION IN SHANGHAI TO MAKE THE CASE THAT CO2 IS NOT POLLUTION. THIS EXTRAORDINARY DIVERSION INTO A POLLUTION ISSUE IS MYSTERIOUS.

THE CLIMATE CHANGE ISSUE IS NOT THAT CO2 IS POLLUTION BUT THAT THE CO2 EMISSIONS FROM BURNING FOSSIL FUELS CAUSE ATMOSPHERIC CO2 TO RISE. THAT’S ALL. THIS IS THE WHOLE OF THE CASE AGAINST CO2 AND IT IS NOT AGAINST ALL CO2 AND CERTAINLY NOT AGAINST CARBON CYCLE CO2 AS IN HUMAN RESPIRATION BUT ONLY AGAINST CO2 FROM BURNING FOSSIL FUELS.

(2) IN THE COMPARISON OF THE POWER PLANT’S “BREATH” AND ALICE’S BREATH” HE FINDS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN OXYGEN WHERE ALICE IS 3X THE POWER PLANT AND NOTES SOME DIFFERENCE IN THE CO2 BUT NOT MUCH. YET, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IS IN THE CO2 WHERE THE POWER PLANT PERCENTAGE EXCEEDS ALICE’S PERCENTAGE BY A FACTOR OF 4.

BESIDES, WHAT IS THE POINT OF STUDYING THE COMPOSITION OF HUMAN RESPIRATION? THESE PERCENTAGES ARE IRRELEVANT TO AGW THEORY. THE TOTAL FOSSIL FUEL EMISSIONS OF THE INDUSTRIAL ECONOMY CAN BE MEASURED AND IT IS ESTIMATED TO BE ABOUT 36 GIGATONNES PER YEAR AND CLIMATE SCIENCE HAS DETERMINED THAT ABOUT HALF OF IT STAYS IN THE ATMOSPHERE AND CAUSES ATMOSPHERIC CO2 TO RISE.

THIS IS THE ONLY CLIMATE CHANGE ISSUE WITH RESPECT TO CO2. THE LECTURE ON POLLUTION AND THE COMPOSITION OF ALICE’S BREATH AND THE COMPOSITION OF POWER PLANT BREATH DO NOT APPEAR TO BE RELEVANT IN THIS CONTEXT.

(3): HIS CRITIQUE OF RENEWABLE ENERGY IS THAT RENEWABLE ENERGY IS NOT AS RELIABLE AS FOSSIL FUELS AND NOT ECONOMICALLY COMPETITIVE WITH FOSSIL FUELS. YET, CLIMATE SCIENCE DOES NOT CLAIM THAT RENEWABLE ENERGY IS MORE RELIABLE AND MORE ECONOMICAL THAN FOSSIL FUELS. THE CLIMATE SCIENCE CASE FOR RENEWABLES IS NOT THAT THEY ARE A BETTER ENERGY PROVIDER THAN FOSSIL FUELS NOR THAT THEY MAKE ECONOMIC SENSE BUT THAT IT’S SOMETHING WE CAN USE TO GET RID OF FOSSIL FUELS THE COMBUSTION OF WHICH CAUSES GLOBAL WARMING.

THE CLIMATE SCIENCE POSITION IS THAT RENEWABLES WILL PUT A BURDEN ON US BUT THAT IT IS A BURDEN WE MUST TAKE TO AVOID THE GREATER BURDEN OF CONTINUED WARMING BEYOND 1.5C. THERE ARE VALID ARGUMENTS AGAINST THE CLIMATE SCIENCE POSITION ON RENEWWABLE ENERGY AS FOR EXAMPLE INTERMITTENCY AND UNRELIABILITY SUCH THAT THEY ARE NOT A VALID ALTERNATIVE TO FOSSIL FUELS.

(4): FINALLY, IN HIS PRESENTATION OF CLIMATE SCIENCE WHERE HE SAYS “IT IS THE SUN” THAT CREATES THE DIURNAL TEMPERATURE CYCLE AND THE SEASONS AND IT IS THE SUN THAT MAKES THE TROPICS WARMER THAN THE GREATER LATITUDES IS MYSTERIOUS IN THE CONTEXT OF THE THEORY OF AGW CLIMATE CHANGE WHERE THE ISSUE IS LONG TERM RISE IN GLOBAL MEAN SURFACE TEMPERATURE. THE LONG AND MYSTERIOUS LECTURE ABOUT DIURNAL CYCLES, SEASONS, AND ABOUT HIGHER TEMPERATURES IN THE TROPICS DO NOT APPPEAR TO BE VERY RELEVANT IN THE AGW CONTEXT.

POSTSCRIPT: FOR THE RECORD, I AM A CLIMATE DENIER AND I WATCHED THIS VIDEO AND TOOK NOTES HOPING TO FIND USEFUL INFORMATION FOR US CLIMATE DENIERS. I DID FIND THE ANALOGY TO THE INQUISITION TO BE INSIGHTFUL AND HELPFUL BUT THE REST OF THE VIDEO APPEARS TO BE AN IMPORMPTU CHAT SESSION.

WE CLOSE WITH GRATITUDE AND RESPECT FOR THE SUPPORT HE HAS PROVIDED TO THE DENIER COMMUNITY WITH HIS PUBLISHED POSITION THAT HE DISAGREES WITH THE CONSENSUS SCIENCE ON CLIMATE CHANGE AND THAT HIS POSITION IS THAT CO2 IS INDEED A GREENHOUSE GAS, THAT A SMALL FRACTION OF THE 1C WARMING SINCE PRE-INDUSTRIAL MAY INDEED BE DUE TO THE HEAT TRAPPING EFFECT OF CO2, BUT THAT THE GREATER PART OF THE WARMING MUST BE UNDERSTOOD AS NATURAL VARIABILITY. AND WE THANK HIM AGAIN FOR THE INSIGHT THAT COMPARES THE CLIMATE CONSENSUS MOVEMENT TO THE INQUISITION.

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